Episode 12: Don't Call It a CRM
October 8, 2025
52 mins
In the first episode of Zero Basis Points, hosts Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti delve into the complexities of the wealth management industry, exploring the evolution of technology, the challenges of data management, and the value of their podcast as a platform for discussion.

In Episode 12 of Zero Basis Points, Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti question whether the traditional CRM still fits how advisors actually work today. They walk through how CRM has expanded far beyond basic contact management and why gaps in data, PDFs, and disconnected workflows still create friction across firms. They also dig into the rise of AI tools like note-takers, how they plug into existing systems, and how AI is starting to reshape advisor workflows more broadly. The episode offers a clear, practical look at what advisor technology needs next — and why simply “fixing the CRM” isn’t enough.
00:00 Welcome and Espresso Cheers
01:07 Fitness Journey and Transformation
06:32 Importance of Consistency in Fitness
07:19 Diving into CRM Discussion
08:28 Evolution of CRM in Wealth Management
14:25 Wealth Relationship Management vs. CRM
20:29 Gaps in Traditional CRM Systems
25:24 Future of CRM and Data Integration
30:22 Innovating in the Wealth Management Space
31:50 Looking Ahead to Future Guests

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Episode 12: Don't Call It a CRM
October 8, 2025
52 mins
In the first episode of Zero Basis Points, hosts Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti delve into the complexities of the wealth management industry, exploring the evolution of technology, the challenges of data management, and the value of their podcast as a platform for discussion.

In Episode 12 of Zero Basis Points, Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti question whether the traditional CRM still fits how advisors actually work today. They walk through how CRM has expanded far beyond basic contact management and why gaps in data, PDFs, and disconnected workflows still create friction across firms. They also dig into the rise of AI tools like note-takers, how they plug into existing systems, and how AI is starting to reshape advisor workflows more broadly. The episode offers a clear, practical look at what advisor technology needs next — and why simply “fixing the CRM” isn’t enough.
00:00 Welcome and Espresso Cheers
01:07 Fitness Journey and Transformation
06:32 Importance of Consistency in Fitness
07:19 Diving into CRM Discussion
08:28 Evolution of CRM in Wealth Management
14:25 Wealth Relationship Management vs. CRM
20:29 Gaps in Traditional CRM Systems
25:24 Future of CRM and Data Integration
30:22 Innovating in the Wealth Management Space
31:50 Looking Ahead to Future Guests

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Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti sit down with Brad Frey, Sales Director at Conquest Planning, for a candid look at the state of financial planning tech.
15
In this episode, Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti share their insights on what really stood out at Advise AI.
14
Episode 13 brings our first guest, Craig Uhlenkott, for a candid conversation on the evolution, current challenges, and future of wealth management technology.
13
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Episode 12: Don't Call It a CRM
October 8, 2025
52 mins
In the first episode of Zero Basis Points, hosts Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti delve into the complexities of the wealth management industry, exploring the evolution of technology, the challenges of data management, and the value of their podcast as a platform for discussion.

In Episode 12 of Zero Basis Points, Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti question whether the traditional CRM still fits how advisors actually work today. They walk through how CRM has expanded far beyond basic contact management and why gaps in data, PDFs, and disconnected workflows still create friction across firms. They also dig into the rise of AI tools like note-takers, how they plug into existing systems, and how AI is starting to reshape advisor workflows more broadly. The episode offers a clear, practical look at what advisor technology needs next — and why simply “fixing the CRM” isn’t enough.
00:00 Welcome and Espresso Cheers
01:07 Fitness Journey and Transformation
06:32 Importance of Consistency in Fitness
07:19 Diving into CRM Discussion
08:28 Evolution of CRM in Wealth Management
14:25 Wealth Relationship Management vs. CRM
20:29 Gaps in Traditional CRM Systems
25:24 Future of CRM and Data Integration
30:22 Innovating in the Wealth Management Space
31:50 Looking Ahead to Future Guests

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Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti sit down with Brad Frey, Sales Director at Conquest Planning, for a candid look at the state of financial planning tech.
15
In this episode, Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti share their insights on what really stood out at Advise AI.
14
Episode 13 brings our first guest, Craig Uhlenkott, for a candid conversation on the evolution, current challenges, and future of wealth management technology.
13
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Episode 12: Don't Call It a CRM
October 8, 2025
36 mins
Episode 12 of Zero Basis Points dives into one of wealth management’s biggest conversations — the evolution of the CRM. Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti unpack how traditional CRM is evolving into Wealth Relationship Management (WRM), discuss the challenges of data integration, the rise of AI note-takers, and how AI is reshaping the advisor workflow.

In Episode 12 of Zero Basis Points, Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti question whether the traditional CRM still fits how advisors actually work today. They walk through how CRM has expanded far beyond basic contact management and why gaps in data, PDFs, and disconnected workflows still create friction across firms. They also dig into the rise of AI tools like note-takers, how they plug into existing systems, and how AI is starting to reshape advisor workflows more broadly. The episode offers a clear, practical look at what advisor technology needs next — and why simply “fixing the CRM” isn’t enough.
00:00 Welcome and Espresso Cheers
01:07 Fitness Journey and Transformation
06:32 Importance of Consistency in Fitness
07:19 Diving into CRM Discussion
08:28 Evolution of CRM in Wealth Management
14:25 Wealth Relationship Management vs. CRM
20:29 Gaps in Traditional CRM Systems
25:24 Future of CRM and Data Integration
30:22 Innovating in the Wealth Management Space
31:50 Looking Ahead to Future Guests

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Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti sit down with Brad Frey, Sales Director at Conquest Planning, for a candid look at the state of financial planning tech.
15
In this episode, Haik Sahakyan and George Guidotti share their insights on what really stood out at Advise AI.
14
Episode 13 brings our first guest, Craig Uhlenkott, for a candid conversation on the evolution, current challenges, and future of wealth management technology.
13
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